ZZZ W-Engine Pity Explained — Soft Pity, 80 Guarantee & 75/25 | Zenless Zone Zero
In Zenless Zone Zero, the W-Engine banner has its OWN pity, fully separate from the Agent banner. You are guaranteed an S-rank W-Engine within 80 pulls (hard pity), with a 1% base S-rank rate. When you hit an S-rank, there's a 75% chance it's the featured W-Engine; lose that 75/25 and your next S-rank is a guaranteed featured one.
What "separate pity" means: W-Engine is independent
The single most important point: the W-Engine banner keeps its own pity counter. Pulls you make on the Agent banner do not add to your W-Engine pity, and vice versa. The two counters are completely separate.
So if you're 70 pulls deep on the character banner, your W-Engine pity still starts at 0. Budget your Polychrome for each banner on its own.
The 80 hard pity and S-rank rates
Per the in-game rate documentation, the base chance for an S-rank W-Engine is 1% per pull — higher than the Agent banner's 0.6% (this figure comes from the in-game rate page, not independent measurement). Even on a dry streak you are guaranteed an S-rank W-Engine on pull 80. That's the hard pity.
- Base S-rank rate: 1%
- Hard pity: 80 pulls
- Cost: 160 Polychrome or 1 Encrypted Master Tape per pull
There's also a soft pity: this is community speculation the developer hasn't officially confirmed, but per tracking, S-rank odds spike from around pull 65, so most players hit their S-rank before reaching 80.
The 75/25 split and its guarantee
When you land an S-rank W-Engine, it isn't automatically the featured one. The split is 75/25:
- 75%: you get the featured W-Engine.
- 25%: you get a standard S-rank W-Engine (a "loss").
The good part: if you fall into the 25%, your next S-rank is a 100% guaranteed featured W-Engine. This guarantee is friendlier than the Agent banner's 50/50, making W-Engines far less painful to secure.
How much to guarantee the featured W-Engine?
Worst case: you hit pity at 80 but lose the 25%, then hit pity at 80 again. The maximum is 160 pulls to guarantee the featured W-Engine.
In resources: 160 × 160 = 25,600 Polychrome, or 160 Encrypted Master Tapes. In practice, thanks to soft pity around 65, most players spend noticeably less than this ceiling.
- 1Pull To 80First hard pity, guarantees one S-rank W-Engine
- 2Lose The 25%You get a standard one, not featured
- 3Pull 80 More TimesSecond hard pity: 100% featured, max 160 pulls
Should you pull the W-Engine?
Because progress here is best treated per-banner (the pity and 75/25 state apply to W-Engine banners, but the featured W-Engine rotates each version), pull only after you own the Agent who uses it. Prioritize the character first, then the W-Engine if you have resources to spare.
A matching S-rank W-Engine is a clear damage boost, but for F2P (free-to-play) players a well-suited A-rank W-Engine is usually strong enough for most content.
How much money to guarantee a featured W-Engine?
| Channel | Hard pity | Polychrome needed | If you lose the 50/50 | Polychrome if you lose |
| Limited W-Engine | 80 pulls | 12,800 | 160 pulls | 25,600 |
Work it out yourself: Polychrome needed × price per Polychrome in your region's largest top-up pack. At the Japanese price point (~1.5 yen each): 14,400 × 1.5 ≈ 21,400–21,600 yen. Independent community sources differ by a few hundred yen due to rounding, so use the formula rather than trusting one hard number. Your first purchase of each pack grants ~60% extra Polychrome.
A full 80-pull hard pity to guarantee one S-rank W-Engine costs 12,800 Polychrome. If your first S-rank lands in the 25% "loss" outcome (not the featured W-Engine), you may need a second full 80-pull cycle to lock in the featured one — worst case is 160 pulls, i.e. 25,600 Polychrome.
Converted to money using Polychrome needed × price per unit: the largest top-up bundle on the Japanese storefront runs about 1.5 yen per Polychrome, putting a guaranteed featured W-Engine around 19,000-19,200 yen. ⚠ This is a range from two Japanese community sources that differ slightly due to bundle-price rounding — do not treat it as one fixed number. These figures reflect the Japanese storefront; players elsewhere should apply the formula to their own region's bundle pricing rather than converting straight to VND/USD.
Note: your very first top-up purchase usually carries roughly a +60% Polychrome bonus (e.g. a 12,000-yen bundle normally listed at 8,080 Polychrome grants 12,960 on that first buy), so timing that purchase well often lowers the real cost of reaching the milestones above.
Use the pity calculator to know exactly what you need
The Polychrome you actually need depends on your current W-Engine pity count and whether you're owing a 75/25 guarantee. Plug your numbers into gamevika's ZZZ pity calculator to instantly see the remaining pulls and Polychrome needed, for both the W-Engine and Agent banners.
Quick comparison: how the W-Engine banner differs
Placing the two banners side by side makes them easier to remember: the W-Engine banner is cheaper, has a lower hard pity, and gives a much better chance of landing the featured item on your first S-Rank than the Agent banner does — the trade-off is that your W-Engine roster tends to be smaller than your character roster, so each featured hit usually matters more.
| Metric | Agent banner | W-Engine banner |
| Hard pity | 90 pulls | 80 pulls |
| Base S-Rank rate | 0.6% | 1.0% |
| Featured chance on first S-Rank | 50% | 75% |
| Worst-case guarantee | 180 pulls | 160 pulls |
| Polychrome for full hard pity | 14,400 | 12,800 |
Because the two pity counters are completely separate, you can't carry progress from one banner to the other. Budget your Polychrome as two separate pools, not one.
How should F2P players budget Polychrome for W-Engines?
For F2P or low-spend players, Polychrome is always scarcer than demand, so a sensible priority order is: 1) secure your core Agent first (character banner), 2) only pull for that Agent's W-Engine if you have Polychrome to spare, and 3) never pull a W-Engine for an Agent you don't yet own — it just sits unused in your inventory, which wastes the pulls.
One useful tip: if you're currently owing the 75/25 guarantee (your last S-Rank on that banner lost), it's usually worth finishing that banner before it closes, since your next S-Rank there is a 100% guaranteed featured W-Engine — missing that window means starting the guarantee over on a different banner.
Because the W-Engine hard pity is only 80 pulls (cheaper than the Agent banner), it's often the better banner to commit to if you can only afford one of two banners running at the same time.
FAQ
Does W-Engine pity share with the Agent banner?
No. The W-Engine and Agent banners have entirely separate pity counters. Pulling on one does not build pity on the other.
When does W-Engine soft pity start?
Per community tracking, S-rank odds ramp up from around pull 65, earlier than the Agent banner. This is a community-measured figure, not an official number.
If I lose the 75/25, do I miss the featured W-Engine?
You don't miss it. After a loss (25%), your next S-rank is a 100% guaranteed featured W-Engine, so within 160 pulls you'll secure it.